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I've heard systems theory people talking about complex and complicated in relationship to the natural world and the industrial machine we think of as the human world, respectively. Two knowledges, one emanating from the earth, the universe, the other the limited human spectrums creative use of its material aspects. The problem has arisen that the second knowledge is imposed on the first. The first knowledge is abused, like the case of your elder, for the purposes of the second knowledge.

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